Bottom Line
April 12, 2011 10:17:44 PM UTC Post #1

I have read a lot of whining from the remaining Ratt members. Truthfully, I have no idea who is right or wrong, I assume only the members of Ratt really know. Let me say on my behalf and probably the majority of the remaining fans, WE DONT GIVE A SHIT.

We dont give a shit about your solo careers, books, producing, anything outside of the real band Ratt. The real band being Stephen, Warren, Bobby, and Juan, no one else. Im not interested in hearing or seeing a different singer, bassist, etc in Ratt.

Oh, and I gotta say, Infestation absolutely sucks. I read a comment that Infestation was suppose to resemble Ratt's earlier albums like Out of the Cellar. LOL...are you kidding? Not even close.

PLEASE, PLEASE, guys im begging you, we are begging you, stop the nonsense, come together and get serious about putting the real Ratt out there. I'll definitely buy that record and go to the show.


April 14, 2011 10:19:44 AM UTC Post #1


Regarding the "infestation absolutely sucks" quote.

You're dead wrong on that one. I respect your right to have your own opinion... but YOU absolutely suck.

Have a nice day.

April 14, 2011 4:12:29 PM UTC Post #2

Wow! The day you joined up, that is going to be your first post? Your entire "bottom line" post was so wrong. This site is for true RATT fans, who love all things RATT past and present. Go to blabbermouth, that is where all the haters post. Thanks for stopping by and have a nice day.

April 14, 2011 10:01:38 PM UTC Post #3

LOL..you have to be DEAF to think Infestation sucks! Infestation is not just the best RATT album in 20 years but the best rock/metal album in 20 years!!

It was even better than the new Scorpions and Ozzy albums that came out!

And Bottom Line you are also WRONG about not wanting to see the members of RATT if they are outside the band. I'll see Pearcy solo anyday since it's going to sound 99% the same as RATT since the voice is the exact same! I admit I will NOT see Blotz or Warren outside of RATT since they'll SUCK without Pearcy!

The lead singer creates the unique sound of a band. The sound of their voice is mostly how we recognize our favorite songs and our favorite bands. I know it's not fair to the other members but no one said life is fair.

April 15, 2011 1:06:00 AM UTC Post #4

JMIKEUSAL has the right sentiment. Ratt is the Stephen, Warren, Bobby and Juan, and I couldn't agree more with you. 99.9% of Ratt fans don't give a damn about the internal bullshit, behind the scenes intertermoil. What we do care about is hearing new Ratt N Roll and seeing the boys on the road.

I gotta tell all you hard core Ratt N Rollers out there, it's tragic to the point beyond disappointing to practically sickening. This band has so much talent, and most heartbreaking, unrealized talent. I disagree with most people out there regarding Infestation. Infestation for my money is a pretty solid record and even more impressive given the fact it was the first one produced in over 10 years. But, that being said, it absolutely is not on the level of Cellar or Invasion. I think Carlos's addition is a perfect fit. I honestly think they still have a ton of music left in the tank. This may sound crazy, but as good as Cellar and Invasion are, I think they could have in their hey-day and]still could produce a masterpiece. If you go back and watch their unplugged taping on youtube, their accustic stuff is fantastic. I think Born on the Bayou may be the best sounding live recording ever caught on tape by these knuckleheads!

There are so many other things about these guys that frustrate the hell out of fans. Seeing them live is always, always a good show. But you can definately tell when the guys aren't on the best of terms. I saw them in Denver in '09 and was far and away the best live show I've seen them play out of the 25 times seeing them. Then again, I've seen them other times on the last tour and the energy wasn't quite there.

The other thing that is really frustrating is the damn set list doesn't change very much. I'll give the guys a lot of credit for playing Cellar in it's entirety, but good God guys, where the hell is Invasion?!!??! They never, ever play that record besides the big two and it's, for my money, their best one. I think Body Talk and You're In Love are killer live, but I could do without hearing Wanted, Slip and Dirty Job over and over and over again. Jesus, throw in all of Invasion, Shame, What's It Gonna Be, Hold Tight, As Good As It Gets, Scene of the Crime, One Good Lover, Enough is Enough.... hell think about doing an acustic cover like Bayou or Mother's Blues. Yes guys, us fans like to hear the deep cuts every bit as much as the usual bad ass tunes. And for God's sake, play a little more than an hour and a half. Going to see a show is one of the best days of the year for us die hards.

Guys, I hope you read this, get over all the bullshit, get your asses back in the studio and on tour. I'll always support ANYONEs solo stuff and would go to shows.I'm that die hard. I also understand that sometimes people need a break from things. But Jesus, end the drama for us all already and get back to doing what you do best.... That's Ratt and Roll, baby!

April 15, 2011 1:16:21 AM UTC Post #5

And another thing.... Please get a live show on DVD.... It's long overdue.

April 17, 2011 6:07:57 AM UTC Post #6

Well, I like Infestation, but wanted it to have more of a garage-metal sound like the EP, and to an extent, Out of the Cellar. Bring back the New Wave of British Heavy Metal-inspired riffing. The new record sounded very AC/DC-ish to me. When you hear Warren' first chord in "Back for More," it is very resonant; the soundscape of "Out of the Cellar" is quite a bit more dynamic than "Infestation," which sounds kind of brick-walled (look the term up if you don't know what I'm talking about). The instruments sound too close together, wheras "Out of the Cellar" has a better ambiance overall. Everything sounds bigger, and all the instruments have more breathing-room, compared to "infestation." It sounds like all the instruments are too close to each other, in a way.

When I think of Ratt the first albums that come to mind are Cellar and Invasion.


April 17, 2011 7:19:29 PM UTC Post #7

=Giveitall said:JMIKEUSAL has the right sentiment. Ratt is the Stephen, Warren, Bobby and Juan, and I couldn't agree more with you. 99.9% of Ratt fans don't give a damn about the internal bullshit, behind the scenes intertermoil. What we do care about is hearing new Ratt N Roll and seeing the boys on the road.

I gotta tell all you hard core Ratt N Rollers out there, it's tragic to the point beyond disappointing to practically sickening. This band has so much talent, and most heartbreaking, unrealized talent. I disagree with most people out there regarding Infestation. Infestation for my money is a pretty solid record and even more impressive given the fact it was the first one produced in over 10 years. But, that being said, it absolutely is not on the level of Cellar or Invasion. I think Carlos's addition is a perfect fit. I honestly think they still have a ton of music left in the tank. This may sound crazy, but as good as Cellar and Invasion are, I think they could have in their hey-day and]still could produce a masterpiece. If you go back and watch their unplugged taping on youtube, their accustic stuff is fantastic. I think Born on the Bayou may be the best sounding live recording ever caught on tape by these knuckleheads!

There are so many other things about these guys that frustrate the hell out of fans. Seeing them live is always, always a good show. But you can definately tell when the guys aren't on the best of terms. I saw them in Denver in '09 and was far and away the best live show I've seen them play out of the 25 times seeing them. Then again, I've seen them other times on the last tour and the energy wasn't quite there.

The other thing that is really frustrating is the damn set list doesn't change very much. I'll give the guys a lot of credit for playing Cellar in it's entirety, but good God guys, where the hell is Invasion?!!??! They never, ever play that record besides the big two and it's, for my money, their best one. I think Body Talk and You're In Love are killer live, but I could do without hearing Wanted, Slip and Dirty Job over and over and over again. Jesus, throw in all of Invasion, Shame, What's It Gonna Be, Hold Tight, As Good As It Gets, Scene of the Crime, One Good Lover, Enough is Enough.... hell think about doing an acustic cover like Bayou or Mother's Blues. Yes guys, us fans like to hear the deep cuts every bit as much as the usual bad ass tunes. And for God's sake, play a little more than an hour and a half. Going to see a show is one of the best days of the year for us die hards.

Guys, I hope you read this, get over all the bullshit, get your asses back in the studio and on tour. I'll always support ANYONEs solo stuff and would go to shows.I'm that die hard. I also understand that sometimes people need a break from things. But Jesus, end the drama for us all already and get back to doing what you do best.... That's Ratt and Roll, baby!




Great post,man.

I'm glad other die hards are coming out regarding Invasion being Ratt's best and how the majority of the songs are shunned live. If you're like me, and enjoy hearing vintage ratt performances, of the stuff on youtube,the live versions of "Give it all" "Between the eyes" and "What you give is what you get" are some of their best.

I also think Ratt's first 3 releases(EP,Ootc, & Invasion) suit Carlos's style the best. It would be great to hear his interpretations of Invasion songs.

As for the original poster...I may disagree, but you wouldn't be here if you didn't have some passion for the band..and others shouldn't insult a fellow Ratt n Roller.

Infestation was a fantastic comeback album....and they still have plenty of chops. But I do agree that it lacks the classic touch that most of the albums from the 80's represented. That said...I've been on record long before this little stand off between the band, that I think the follow up to Infestation has potential to be mind blowing. Infestation pulled out the kinks, brought in a very good long term replacement for Robbin,and proved that they can still write top 40 hard rock music. Now they can concentrate on writing a modern day top 10 album. They are certainly capable of it.

April 18, 2011 9:52:10 PM UTC Post #8

Im glad I started this post. Weather you agree or disagree with me, there are some good points posted by everyone.

I think GiveItAll's post is right on. First of all, Invasion is a "die hard' fan like me favorite. That album is just fun to me. I never get tired of listening to "Never Use Love"...

I went back and listened to Infestation after I read the post. Im sorry, none of the songs "stick" to me like Cellar, Invasion, or Dancing...maybe thats just me, and thats cool. It's like someone posted before, it just doesn't have the big, powerful sound like Cellar and Invasion.

Maybe my first post was a lil over the top, if so, I apologize. These guys are talented and I know if they wanted to they could produce an album we'd all love. Unfortunately, it may never happen.

April 18, 2011 10:02:52 PM UTC Post #9

=jmikeusl said:Im glad I started this post. Weather you agree or disagree with me, there are some good points posted by everyone.

I think GiveItAll's post is right on. First of all, Invasion is a "die hard' fan like me favorite. That album is just fun to me. I never get tired of listening to "Never Use Love"...

I went back and listened to Infestation after I read the post. Im sorry, none of the songs "stick" to me like Cellar, Invasion, or Dancing...maybe thats just me, and thats cool. It's like someone posted before, it just doesn't have the big, powerful sound like Cellar and Invasion.

Maybe my first post was a lil over the top, if so, I apologize. These guys are talented and I know if they wanted to they could produce an album we'd all love. Unfortunately, it may never happen.


I don't think many of us are saying Infestation is as good as Invasion or Cellar or Dancing but others have noted the sound of Infestation could fit right around Cellar and Invasion and they're right.

Infestation is not as good as Cellar, Invasion, Dancing, etc. BUT Infestation BLOWS AWAY the latest by Motley, Scorpions, Kiss, Ozzy, etc. Infestation is the best rock/metal CD in 20 years!!

"Eat Me Up Alive" though is very close to those great hits on Invasion, Cellar, Dancing, etc. It's FANTASTIC! I didn't think it was possible for humans to make music that good anymore since we don't live in the 80s anymore!

September 12, 2011 5:03:01 AM UTC Post #10

I've been a ratt fan since OOTC had just come out--and I saw them in concert while they were still an opening act (I think they opened for Billy Squire at the Capital Center in Washington DC is when i first saw them live--I was about 10 feet from the stage--right in front of De Martini--it was AMAZING)

Anyways, I really, really like Infestation.

But their best album is still ahead--if they can keep it together--and here is what they need to do for the next album:

(1) As much as I like Infestation, the guitar sound is tooo "Marshall". I miss the OOTC/Invasion guitar sound. It hasn't been topped or matched ANYWHERE.

(2) Cavazo was brought in near the end of the writing process--and it shows. For many of the songs, you can hardly tell that a 2nd guitar is either there, are is really needed. (at least, when compared to the old Demartini/Crosby stuff--or compared to Night Ranger, or some scorpions stuff--they missed the mark in that area) I think that, for their next album, if DeMartini and Cravazo put a bit more preparation into this together, they'll accomplish great things. Sounds written FROM THE GROUND UP for 2 electric guitars ARE DIFFERENT and songs where a 2nd guitar is added to provides fills & layers.

(3) Along the same lines, there is a bit of a "wall of sound" where you can't make out the 2 guitar parts distinctly. Probably typical recording gimics to make it sound cool/big. I recall listing to Invastion TRYING to make out 2 distinct guitar parts--and I can't... which wasn't the case for OOTC or invasion. If they do my previous suggestion, this won't be necessary--and the end product will be BETTER than what some recording engineer can contrive. (if this is unclear, listen to "don't tell me you love me" from night ranger to get an excellent example of the opposite of this)

(4) I'm NOT 15 any more. Got it. I don't get off on juvenile lyrics anymore. And songs/albums don't sell if I can't play them in the car with my kids/teens. Don't market your lyrics to15-year-old boys and your potential airplay and your potential fan base grows exponentially. You don't have to compromise your message. If you must write lyrics about screwing girls, make it more subtile--so that it goes over my own 11-year-old son's head. Basically.. the world has changed--and we all grew up... and hard rock is MUCH more "mainstream".

FOR EXAMPLE: Ratt screwed themselves when their two best hit songs had lyrics like "the best women in the wild wild west" (how stupid is that!)... and "as I lay you on the bed" (again, now I can't let me children hear what would have otherwise been a great Ratt song... just for a few stupid lyrics that really weren't that important.)--thus goes two otherwise great songs--and both these lyrics are right at the beginning of the two songs.

(is Stephen Pearcy a 15-year-old stuck in an old man's body? appearently so!)

(5) If Pearcy can't get it together--drop him... even if you have to change the name. Don't let Pearcy's immaturity and "games" hold you back. (and if someone from ratt wants to ask me directly, I'll suggest a potentially great replacement--I don't personally know the guy, but it was a singer from a glam/metal band that died out prematurely because they started out just before grung/Nirvana killed hairbands.. but had they started earlier, they might have been another Ratt or Crue. At that time, only those at the very top, like Ratt & Crue... survived the onslaught.)

(6) I haven't seen RATT live for MANY years. But I saw them 3 times in the 80s. The first time, when they were an opening act, the sound was AMAZING. But BOTH subsequent times they were headline acts... one for the latter part of the OOTC tour, the other for the Invasion tour--and their sound on both of those shows TOTALLY SUCKED. All I could hear was a rumble of sound w/some Pearcy high-pitched screaming. I didn't even know which song was being played until half-way through. I've read that this had been a persistant decades-long problem for RATT. They need to get this together (if now already fixed?)

(7) Having said all that, the guitar riffs were excellent and the drums were amazing on Infestation. it was blotzer's best sound ever and probably their best album since Invasion!

But I think the best is ahead--if they'll follow these suggestions.

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